In the 1930 census, he and Gladys live in Buffalo, New York. He is a clerk for a miller’s merchant. They had been married for 3 or 4 years.
In the 1940 census, he and his family, including his mother-in-law, lived in Kenmore in Erie County, New York. He was a district manager for a flour mill. He and his wife had had two years of college.